Fox News finally notices the Diebold voting machine scandal

Now that the Democratic Party seems poised to retake the House, Fox News gets concerned about the voting machines. Where were they in 2002 and 2004, when the polls were nearly dead-even and every single Diebold “error” miraculously ended up favoring the Republican Party?

…and, a 10 minute video summarizing the Princeton study (which is one of many studies & tests showing how our votes are being stolen):

Discussion (10)¬

  1. Fred Wurther says:

    “”Zing” can refer to a simple witticism. No truth content necessary. “Anonymous” comments ran together nicely.”

    At the risk of belaboring the point, doesn’t a “witticism” imply “wit,” which is a “keen perception?” How can something untrue be a keen perception?

    In any case, I agree, the voting machines are a case of “be careful what you wish for.” One case of hanging chads caused us to leap before we looked to adopt untried technology. Technology that’s entirely in the hands of one party (the Republicans); and then we get surprised that they end up using their own technology to steal the elections. This is probably the least surprising surprise in the history of surprises.

    It’s also a catch-22. To get to the bottom of the voting machine fraud would take Congressional action, but the voting machines are capable of picking their own Congress.

  2. elliott J. says:

    “If you want to get worried, think about Diebold – not just voting machines, but the other areas they have software/hardware – ATMs, currency markets, security systems. “

    The voting machines are far more urgent a matter. Because when you can’t trust the vote counting, we have no democracy. As long as the corporatist party keeps getting elected, Diebold won’t have any oversight in those other areas you mention. Corporations get free reign.

    Although bringing up ATM’s brings up a good point: Diebold is lying if they say providing a paper trail isn’t possible. I get a paper trail every time I use one of their ATM machines (even the portable one at the corner 7-11).

  3. Anonymous says:

    Well here we go again!

    Everything’s great as long as the “Right” comes out on top, but if it’s a level playing field, then watch out! Let the shriek-fest begin!

    I’m from Washington State too (just outside Seattle) and to top it off I have been working for the King County Elections Department for going on 16 years now. (In short, I know the actual truth about the election problems, not what the “Far and Balanced” gop want to tell their sheep-like followers!)

    Oh, and if “fixing” a political party means “hand it over to the Chistian Right and call everyone else an anti-American sinner” then I’m proud to say I hope the Democrats stay very, VERY broken!!

    As much as I would love to go off about the double standards here, I’m not gonna bother.

    As the saying goes, “Never try and teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and it annoys the pig.”

    Now change the word PIG to SHEEP and the word SING to THINK FOR IT’S SELF, and it’s a great little reminder that- when it come to religous driven politics- you had best just save your breath if you dare to disagree!

    -ZW (gleefully open-minded and proud to be NOT Christian!)

  4. Paul says:

    “Zing” can refer to a simple witticism. No truth content necessary. “Anonymous” comments ran together nicely.

    You likely missed the (much) earlier references to Republicans taking a page from the Democrat playbook and going one better. Such as with targeting special interests, then getting them out to vote. Then with the Florida 2000 lawsuits. Dems sued, Reps got better lawyers. And now Reps do a preemptive lawsuit.

    Discussion was about voter fraud and power, regardless of technology. Been going on as long as there’s been representative government. Or totalitarian government (love those vote counts in Iran). Did the reference to the Kerry camp pooh-poohing “fraud” when it went against Nader or the Libertarians strike a nerve? Oh, well. Never said who “my team” is. Anyway, it’s irrelevant.

    Disgusting? Lighten up. This is a cartoon blog, for pete’s sake. Serious issues, sure, but really. Does anyone think if the Democratic party wins contested elections and Republicans claim “Diebold error” that Democrats will call for independent verification?

    If you want to get worried, think about Diebold – not just voting machines, but the other areas they have software/hardware – ATMs, currency markets, security systems.

    And I stand by my earlier point – much of the rush for “electronic, tamper-proof voting machines” was caused by all the silliness over hanging chads and shortsighted party politics.

  5. Fred Wurther says:

    “LOLOLOLOL! Zing!”

    “Zing?” What are you talking about? For something to be a “zing,” it has to be true. As has been pointed out already, when the GOP lost here in Washington State, did they “refine their message?” No, they SUED. I read an article months ago about how the GOP was planning on suing over voting machine malfuntions in the eventuality that they would lose the House this November. Unfortunately I didn’t save the article, and I’m having a devil of a time finding it through Google. All the search phrases I think of are too common and it turns up a million articles. Anyone know what I’m talking about? If so please post a link.

    Lastly, Paul, it’s disgusting that people such as yourself and “anonymous” take the very real problem of hacked voting machines so lightly. I’m 100% sure you wouldn’t if Diebold had promised to deliver Ohio’s electoral votes to John Kerry, and then every “error” on election day gave Kerry extra votes. But it’s all just a game to people like you, and anything goes as long as it helps “your team” hold onto power.

  6. Tiffany says:

    “The Republicans will probably work on improving their party and their message rather than blaming voting machines.”

    Explain how all the mistakes in Ohio subtracted votes from Kerry and added votes to Bush.

  7. Paul says:

    LOLOLOLOL! Zing!
    re question: “where was fox news” – went to and found a bunch of reports, including this one:
    This is a partial transcript of “Special Report With Brit Hume,” Nov. 11, 2004, that has been edited for clarity.

    Watch “Special Report With Brit Hume” weeknights at 6 p.m. ET

    BRIT HUME, HOST: Ralph Nader (search) now wants a recount in New Hampshire. So do the Libertarian and Green Party candidates for Ohio. The Kerry camp scoffs at the idea that this year’s reported election irregularities could add up to anything that could come close to changing the outcome. But the Internet is abuzz with talk of conspiracies and stolen votes.

    So who better to consult with the man who wrote a book on election fraud? John Fund of The Wall Street Journal, whose book is called “Stealing Elections.”

    Didn’t bother to check for MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.

    Whenever there’s power and money there will be fraud. Happens with paper ballots, will happen with electronic. It’s not a party issue – it’s power. Just seems to me it’d be easier to tamper with an electronic/software system rather than with paper/manual system. Here’s a thought: how much did Democrats influence the rush from manual to electronic systems with all the fuss made over “hanging chads, I think the voter really meant to mark THIS block” etc in the 2000 Presidential election? Be careful what you wish for…

  8. Anonymous says:

    The Republicans will probably work on improving their party and their message rather than blaming voting machines.

  9. elliott J. says:

    "re question: "where was fox news" – went to and found a bunch of reports, including this one:This is a partial transcript of "Special Report With Brit Hume," Nov. 11, 2004, that has been edited for clarity."I looked it up too, and Fox did report on this stuff. The difference then and now, is that they used to MOCK the people who complained about the voting machines. The above clip makes it look like they're finally taking it seriously.But it's not just Fox, the rest of the Media seems to finally be taking it seriously. I think it's because of all the recent tests showing how easy it is to "flip" the votes. One test showed you can even do it wirelessly with a PDA and leave no trace.To "anonymous," you can bet Republicans would investigate the voting machines if they lost. Republicans used to whine about Florida and about the Florida Supreme Court getting involved in that election, but THEY were the ones to take it to the Supreme Court, and THEY were the ones to sue when they lost the Governor's race in Washington.

  10. Anonymous says:

    I wonder: If Democrats retake Congress, do you think the Republicans will suddenly get all concerned about the voting machine issue and even suggest that Democrats hacked the machines?

    That’s a rhetorical question.