Fox “News” Viewers React to Release of Obama’s Birth Certificate
Today, President Obama finally released his long-form birth certificate to prove he’s an American. In other words, the country finally released long-form certification that we continue to be a nation plagued by racist assholes. Millions of Americans (45% of Republicans, according to a recent poll) just can’t accept that a black man is a true American.
No amount of proof is enough to squash a conspiracy theory, because conspiracy theories aren’t about facts; they’re about people refusing to accept that history’s moved on and left them or their worldview in the dust. The facts are always, always incidental. The people who clung to their Obama-is-an-Other fantasy (also known as “Fox News Viewers”) will now simply refuse to believe their own eyes. For example…
(culled from the reader responses to the release of the certificate…)
“It’s a Certificate of birth… Not a Birth Certificate which has the seal, mothers finger print and baby’s feet prints… Certificate of birth, easily forged… Birth Certificate, cannot be forged…I hope they do a chemical analysis on the paper and ink.”
-heydad614“To the best of my knowledge, that green “crossthatch” paper didn’t exist in 1961. Had a white sheet of paper been place on the copier screen, then copied using that green paper, you’d see a white sheet of paper copied onto that larger green crossthatch paper. If someone has information to the contrary, as in, when exactly that style of paper came into being and when it became a standard for State’s to use it for birth certificate, vehicle titles…as well as banks to use it (for checks), I’m all ears. And eyes.”
-Rod Vanger“His mother’s mother, his grandmother stated that she went to Kenya for his birth. Remember, you don’t have to be born in the USA to be an Illinois State Senator. Just so happens she didn’t live long enough to see the election and explain why she could possibily be mistaken as to where her grandson was born. Yup, people forge documents all the time and money and power get really good documents. This isn’t over. Where did he say he was born on the college forms that he filed. That is where the investigation should go. If he falsified the forms to get Federal Grant or Scholarahip monies then he would be guilty of Fraud. Trump must go after those forms next. “A person who has nothing to hide hides nothing”.”
-sunkgleska“He should show it he has had three years to have one made up!!!!!!!!!!!!”
-dissmayed“So, now the question remains, why did Obama pay over $2 Million, in legal fees, to prevent his birth certificate from seeing the light of day, only to now release it (over two years after the election), or did he? Is this a real birth certificate? What about the university and health records?”
-Wolfman Jones“Why would they refer to him as African as his race …. and his mother as cauc. ? Something isn’t right here… African is not a Race!! Also his mother was 17 when she became pregnant with Obama… many of us were led to believe she met Obama Senior while in college…. hummm…. like I said something just isn’t right….”
-goway“It only took 2+ years for him to produce one at all. Now EITHER this is the real one and it took Trump hasseling him about it for him to finally produce it OR it is NOT a real one but it took 2+ years for his people to figure out a way to get him a Long Form. Now in this case, as my Grandfather used to say ” If it walks like a Duck, looks like a Duck, and sounds like a Duck…its a Duck” Now if you look at the Certificate it may look like a real one next to a real one. But if you look at the situation, at the context of it, the timing of the release and how long it took you could say its a fake one. The FACT is, it should have never been an issue. Every other President before him both Democrat and Republican PROVIDED it up front*, as well as their educational records, and tax records. This President has gotten away with concealing SO MUCH FOR SO LONG. If there wasn’t a problem why would he conceal it? Its a simple question.”
-tazer357 (*Darrin’s note: no, they didn’t, because nobody ever thought to ask a caucasian president to prove he was an American)“And one is to believe that a person would spend a few mill on lawyers to dodge the issue of simply whipping this mint copy of “live birth”, not a birth certificate, out of their sock drawer? Perhaps the anti tea party Buttbama loving groupies need to further their education. It’s all bogus.”
-kevinbecham“it’s a fake!!!!
i’ve seen obamas family picture (in an email) and they do not give BC’s to monkeys!!!!”
-rwalden
There are two slightly less bat-shit insane groups of conspiracy theorists: the kind who accept the facts, but then concoct a NEW conspiracy theory to explain why they were duped into believing the original conspiracy theory… and the kind who simply try to change the subject and hope you forget they ever mentioned it in the first place. Sometimes you get people who do both:
“So basically, just like I already knew, this was hidden for no other purpose than to deliberately cause controversy so Obama could use it to demean & dismiss those that oppose him. He could have done this when McCain was made to show his in 2008, instead he used it in typical Saul Alinsky style. The question is not WHERE he was born but WHY has he hidden all of his personal information?
He is a liar, a rac ist, a Mar xist, Social ist, Commun ist, pick one. He just attended “Easter” services at a church where the B L A C K “pastor” is another Jerimiah Wright, lots of coverage of that huh?
-paintinc56
(sigh)
This is the kind of sad chapter in our history that the “racism is all behind us” crowd will be working overtime to forget. Which is why I propose turning it into a national holiday. Henceforth, Americans will celebrate April 27 as “Black-President-Had-to-Prove-He-Was-an-American-Day.” Some of us will hang our heads in lingering resentment, racists will gleefully and ironically barbecue, and all of us will eventually use it as just another excuse to take off work for a day. And Hallmark will clean up.
Curious. Where did the 14 replies go under Glorfindel?
Aren't these (Fox News) folks the same folks who wanted to CHANGE the rules to allow people born outside the US to run for president, in order to accommodate a possible run by Arnold Schwartzenegger?
Ann, GREAT thought. Yes, these are the same people who wanted to change the rules to allow Arnold to run for president! These people are wrapped in ego and self. Whatever they want, they will fudge to get it. Let someone else go for it, they will scream bloody murder. Let them THINK someone else is going for the golden ring, and they will scream even louder, and get aggressive to the nth degree.
Just thought I would throw out one more comment. One really good question to ask right now is "Why did the birth certificate show up now?" Obama spent millions to cover it up, and as soon as anyone on the serious political stage (the clown know as D. Trump) tries to harp on the issue, out comes the certificate. It is almost like Obama was baiting the Republicans to bite, and all Obama got was Donald Trump. It's kind of funny! 😀
You ask, "Why now?" I was always given advice to ignore silly accusations. Later on, when things got heated, I was given different advice and told to give my own explanation. But, there was a huge time gap between the two pieces of advice. I am sure this is what happened. In the beginning, Obama and his advisors thought this was a silly issue and it would just disappear on its own. Then, when it ballooned to the point of insanity, Obama's advisors changed their mind and said, "OK, since this is not just going away, just show it and be done with it." I don't think there is any significance to the "why now" issue.
If you are right, that they just thought it was a silly issue, then that shows they are not taking the constitution seriously enough. If this is taken as a political issue, then yes it just seems silly. If the citizenship requirement is taken seriously as a LAW (which it is), then they should have jumped on it right away.
I just saw Obama on the Oprah Winfrey show. He was laughing and joking about this issue because he said he immediately showed the certificate they released in Hawaii but that wasn't enough for the fringe group of people who wanted to be "right". He said he actually thought it was a silly issue, since he was there when he was born and remembered being born in Hawaii (joke), and said, "Imagine my mom at 18 years old knowing she would have a future president so she bribed the officials into falsifying a birth certificate and paid them however much money it took to do so even though she was poor." Makes no sense, huh? As far as the money spent on "hiding" it? Nope. It was just legal fees for whatever was required, and because there were so many lawsuits to bait him, he needed representation. If there had been no lawsuits, there would have been no need for a defense amount. People who brought the lawsuits created a need for money being spent. By the way, John McCain also spent a great deal of money on legal fees. Go ask him why he needed to do that? Maybe HE was hiding something!!!!
No, it's just sad. For instance, Obama DID NOT "spend millions to cover it up." Birthers like to toss that around, but they don't have one shred of evidence to back it up. Obama's campaign spent a couple million on ALL legal fees related to their campaign, which is typical for any campaign. McCain, who had a smaller campaign organization, spent $1.2 million. Yet Birthers never claim that he spent $1.2 million to cover anything up. They save that stuff for Obama.
You may want to read this: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/no-president-oba…
The dollar amounts are irrelevant. I'm just saying that I think Obama, who is a really good politician even though he is a lousy president, decided to use the birthers to his advantage. I think he held it back, not because he was hiding anything, but he wanted to make a political rival look bad. Worked, too.
The dollar amount is irrelevant if the dollar amount is essentially zero. Maybe the whole argument is irrelevant, but you brought it up.
Obama did not create a strategy to hold back and the birthers didn't need to be "baited." Personally, I think he made a political mistake by releasing the long form. The longer the birthers continued to embarrass the Republicans the better for the Democrats.
I think it's odd to believe there was strategic timing here. It's more than a year before the election. There's no strategic advantage to releasing it now, given our short national attention span. If Obama had intended to use it as a trump card (pun intended), the only logical thing to do would be to let Republicans dig their hole all the way till 2012, and then either release it just after the GOP convention to destroy the convention bounce, or spring it as an October Surprise just before the election. Frankly, I wish that's what he would have done. It would've served the race-baiters right.
It's going to be very HARD to fault the president on such a superficial and stupid issue since Bin Ladin is now dead and buried at sea. Obama will GET THE CREDIT for this take down which Bush couldn't get done in 10 years!!!! It only took Obama 2 1/2 years!!!!
The math's a little off on this one. At most, Bush had ~7 years of his 8 (not 10) years as President to get it done. You don't get to add the 2.5 years of Obama's term to Bush no matter how much you'd like to. Also, it wasn't exactly like Obama started from scratch here. It wasn't like nothing was being done and voila!, things magically happened when Obama became President. He came into the game with men already in scoring position.
I believe Obama deserves credit for two things with respect to Bin Laden. First, he kept things (e.g., drone strikes) and people (e.g., Gates) in place that were working. Second, he didn't waffle when he got the opportunity to take out Bin Laden.
A news reporter mentioned that while "birthers" were trying to goad Obama, he was busy finding and killing Bin Laden. I think the birthers should be ASHAMED of themselves. WHILE they were trying to put focus on something so inane, the president had more pressing matters of security and safety with which to deal. Shame on you guys who did that! Aren't you EMBARRASSED right now?
Chaya, I think the birthers, tea partyers, trumpettes, palinistas & beckheads have firmly established that they are incapable of feeling embarrassment or shame about anything, don't you?
Darrin, you're right that Obama's waiving his chances of interrupting a post-GOP convention bounce or of staging an October surprise establishes that there was no POLITICAL "strategery" to his release of the long form birth certificate [which Jon Stewart pointed out is ironically, physically shorter than the alleged "short form."] But in light of more RECENT, superseding surprises, I would think that the only conceivable strategy to the timing might be military? Namely, to distract the easily distractable media from any undercurrent or buzz, that might otherwise have broken thru their haze, that the White House/military/CIA was planning something far more important. Brian Williams said on Letterman that, in retrospect, a lot of the WH cogniscenti at the WH Correspondents' dinner Saturday were unusually engrossed in their Blackberries. I'm thinking one of the reasons that that went unremarked at the time was that everyone else at the gala was too busy enjoying the hilarious & well deserved barrage of birth certificate humor & craning to see how the donald was reacting. If so, it was a great feint.
The look on Trump's face was, "We are not amused".
I hadn't thought of that. That makes perfect sense.
Is that supposed to be a response?o.0
Yes. I've given up writing lengthy responses to what appear to be disingenuous arguments.
When millions of people SUDDENLY become sticklers about the citizenship requirement (despite being shown what the state of Hawaii repeatedly said was official proof of his citizenship), that's curious. When you ignore the fact that no president before him has been questioned about his citizenship, that's disingenuous.
And no, I don't give any credence to the notion that it's racist to point out racism. To me, that argument is nothing but verbal judo. It's a debate tactic. It's sophistry, not a legitimate point.
Maybe it is disingenuous, but it is not necessarily disingenuous because of race. You are definitely jumping to a conclusion.
I agree that it is not racist to point out racism. That is just fine. But calling people racist where there is not a shred of connection between their claims and race displays a defensiveness over race that is itself a kind of racism. The antidote for racism is "forgive and forget", not racial defensiveness. Racial defensiveness only feeds the other racial fires.
Sure, but there's far more than a "shred" of connection here. No, the antidote for racism is not "forgive and forget." That's never been the antidote to racism. The antidote for racism is exposing it for what it is and shaming the perpetrator into changing his ways (or at least hanging a big letter "R" around his neck so others can recognize him and not emulate his behavior).
Wow! You really have a chip on your shoulder about this! The problem with this kind of response to racism is that zealots inevitably grab hold of that kind of thing and go too far with it. You have just made a case for a Scarlet Letter kind of thing.
Yes, I used that analogy for a reason. If Hester Prynne didn't want to be known as an adulterer, she should have petitioned to have her long-overdue husband declared dead (which was an option in those days) before moving on to another man. Likewise, if someone doesn't want to be known as a bigot, that person shouldn't support bigoted movements like birtherism, long after it's been shown to be baseless.
I don't even care about the citizenship thing anymore. I am talking about hatred and hate speach. There is a big difference between hating a sin and hating the sinner. You have crossed the line to hating the sinner. I see little difference between your hatred of racists and a racist's hatred of a race. Hitler literallly made the Jews wear stars so that they could be publically shamed. Your hatred is just less advanced (hopefully) than his was. Racism develops in people a sense of superiority. Your anit-racism fosters a sense of self-righteousness. The insipient danger of self-righteousness is that it is a lot harder for people to see and turn away from.
Seriously, Glorfindel? You see "little difference between [Darrin's, alleged] hatred of racists and a racist's hatred of a race"?! So, you're saying racism is just another demographic category and those who belong to that group were, what, just innocently born or baptized into it? A target of racism who hates the racist hates someone who, of his own free will, wishes him/her ill, who had done him/her WRONG, solely on the basis of his or her race. It may not be a "turn the other cheek" reaction, but it is a NATURAL reaction, aimed at someone who had done him a grievous wrong. In my book, that is VERY different from the racist's hate of someone solely on the basis of who that someone IS, and of who that person's PARENT's are and where their ancestors were born. In other words, the racist hates someone of another race because of that fellow human being's very core identity! And you see "little diffference" in THAT, and DARE to compare Mr. Bell to Hitler? Wow. Just wow.
I'm sure the long-suffering "Racist-American" minority group appreciates Glorfindel's strange use of moral equivalency.
Short, sweet, and to the point. Good response.
Good grief. I am not defending racists. I just see as many people saying "racism" where there is no racism as I see actual racists. And most of that is coming from the liberal, black community. Think about it. If someone who is NOT racist gets accused of racism and shamed as a racist as Bell says should be done, blacks will only hurt there own cause and potentially cause racism where there was none. Your public shaming method is playing with fire that will burn your cause, however legitimate it is.
Telling a person who's not racist that he's advancing a racist argument, is different than telling him he's racist. We all do that without thinking, sometimes, and if we're lucky, someone will come along and put us in check. A person who is not racist will be introspective enough to realize it if the critic has a good point, and change his way of thinking. Even admit he was wrong.
That never happens if the critic just "forgives and forgets."
But if a person clings to an irrational notion of a black man being a foreigner, even after seeing proof that he's an American, there's a good chance that person is an intransigent bigot who just can't accept that a black man is president.
No, I don't buy the "maybe they just don't like liberals" rationale, because we've had liberal presidents (and candidates right wingers casually paint as liberal), and not a single one of them ever faced a birther movement.
Meanwhile, 16% of Americans (and 30% of Republicans) cling to the idea that Obama was not born in America.
(http://www.zogby.com/news/2011/05/03/16-all-voters-30-republicans-continue-believe-obama-not-born-us-/)
Whatever hatred or malady controls these people has a strong hold on them.
Why did it become an issue? How about the hyper-politicization of almost everything these days? It is not like libs were all that cool with W. I do not like Obama because he is so liberal, not because he is racist. Alan Keyes is anything but perfect, but I'll take him over Obama any day gladly. If you think that there aren't any reasons why someone might dislike Obama besides his race, you need to get out more.
Sorry. Meant to write "not because he is black" not "not because he is racist."
Nobody – NOBODY – is saying it's racist to "dislike" Obama. But it is racist to pretend he's not a citizen even after being presented with what the state of Hawaii said was an official birth certificate. It's the more politically-correct way of portraying him as "The other."
Yes, it is also racist to imply the only reason he was able to get into an ivy league college was that he's black (affirmative action) and therefore wasn't really qualified.
Dude, you seem to have me confused with a radical birther. I'm not. I accept both of the birth certificates. This comment above, though, shows you to be just as bonkers as the radical birthers are. Do you have a shred of evidence or logic to show that if someone, even a radical birther, keeps harping on the citizenship issue, then it is because that person is racist? Or could it be that they just think he is really liberal? Or maybe some other thing bugs them about Obama? Your "nobody – nobody…" and your "but it is…" are mutually exclusive, unless you can prove it.
There are several reasons why people might cling to irrational beliefs about Obama. Maybe some of them are not racial. Some are hyper-partisans. Some have head injuries. However, none of these explanations reflect well on the radical birthers.
At the same time, you can not dismiss the fact that the attempt to cast the President as "the other" (as Darrin puts it) is usually strongest in the areas that resisted desegregation and other parts of the civil rights movement.
As I mentioned on Twitter last week, "it's not fair to say ALL birthers are racist buffoons; some are ordinary buffoons."
But I think I was giving them too much credit. If you (the general "you," don't take that personally) choose to express your dislike of Obama by buying in to a movement that is at its core based on the racist desire to wrongly cast a black man as a foreigner… you're either racist yourself, or you're comfortable supporting the tactics of racists. As a practical matter, the distinction between the two is meaningless.
As you point out, nobody can judge what's in your heart, they can only judge your actions. Clinging to the unfounded birther conspiracy theory – after seeing the birth certificates and hearing Hawaiian officials attest to their validity – is an action that speaks volumes.
This may be obvious to some … however, for anyone else, this is the reason why I believe a lot of the 'birthers' are racists:
* I still meet a significant percentage of white people who still say things that sound (to me) to be clearly racist.
* These apparently racist people seem to be the most likely people to support the 'birther' movement.
Racism appears to me to be a very deeply engrained belief. It's difficult to imagine a practical way to re-educate real racists. We seem to be stuck with them. My hope rests with the younger generations, growing up in a more diverse, informed, modern world, where bigotry is easier to recognize than it was for previous generations.
Laser Plumb Bob, amen!
I live among enough bigots to know that there is often a connection between racism and these kinds of attacks on Obama. To be fair, some of these birthers are simply hyper-partisans. They are blinded by a party-based hatred rather than racially-based hatred.
Either way, these are people who are so desperate to avoid reality that they'll cling to anything that tells them that they're the "real" Americans and that they didn't actually lose the last election.
Laser, from your mouth to God's ear.
Robert, I don't think Mrs. Obama would think he has a flaccid approach. Hahahaha.
Calm down people. While there are plenty of whackos out there in the birther camp, there seem to plenty on this side of the fence, too. The natural born requirement is a legally binding requirement of the constitution, like it or not. It was a totally relevant question. To claim that those who believe in following the constitution as a law (heck it is THE law of our land) are doing so just because they supposedly "just can’t accept that a black man is a true American" is totally racist. And yes it is racist. Race had nothing to do with it, but you brought it up.
No matter how relevant you feel the question, you need to accept when the question has been answered and stop being so anal retentive and obsessive compulsive, trying to justify your belief by looking for microscopic "evidence" of frame ups, conspiracies, and unnaturally conceived conclusions. It appears some people BEGIN with a conclusion and then look for things to back it up. I also know some people who, when faced with being just plain wrong, go ballistic. Stay calm, guys! Chill.
Yes or no.. a baby born of an American mother is an American citizen?
Sigh… This frequent red herring does our side no good, b/c it makes us look like we, rather than the after-birthers, don't know our Constitution. Barack Obama II is eligible b/c he was indisputably born in Hawai'i, NOT b/c his mother was born in Kansas! For the eleventieth time, for purposes of PRESIDENTIAL ELIGIBILITY, the birthplace of the candidate/president's mother, or for that matter, father, is NOT the key and never has been. Despite how a layperson might interpret "natural born citizen," the legal meaning of this Constitutional requirement is that U.S. citizenship ALONE will NOT answer this requirement. I am SO tired of hearing things like, "The president could have been born on Mars, and his mother's citizenship means he's still a U.S. citizen and thus eligible." I will NEVER defend the birther-twits, but sorry, the president's citizenship must derive from HIS or HER birthplace on U.S. soil, NOT his or her parent's(s')! That means born in one of the 50 states, which includes Hawai'i at the time of Obama's birth, or in one of the territories– if, for ex., Obama were just a couple of years older & born before statehood. A few Dem. birthers of 1964 tried to pull the statehood argument on Barry Goldwater, who was born in Arizona TERRITORY, but no dice. A candidate could be born in Puerto Rico or Guam, even tho those citizens are deprived of a presidential vote. It also includes, arguendo, places treated as U.S. soil for legal purposes– as in McCain's birthplace in the Panama Canal Zone [NB: as opposed to the rest of the country of Panama.] Some also insist that the requirement is also met if, hypothetically, a candidate had been born in a U.S embassy abroad [seriously hypothetical, even if the mother were Mrs. Ambassador doing a "home birth"] or on a U.S military base abroad, as my brother was, so he insists w/ considerable dudgeon that he's eligible.
We need to keep things scrupulously accurate, b/c we know that the wingnuts will seize the least smidgeon of error and equate it w/ the stupidest things that the shrub or the Palin have ever said to "prove" that us libbies never get called out on our "errors" by that mythical beast, "the liberal-biased media."
Thanks, Macushla. You are SO smart! I love being educated in things of which I am not so sure. I guess you can teach an old dog new things.
Thank you, Macushla. I totally agree, although I could not have spelled it out so well.
So many commented on the initial Yahoo story Wed. a.m. that it crashed their server- over 20k comments in under an hour! At least a lot of them [a rarity on those Yahoo threads] actually supported the president! Still, there are a depressing number of Still-Birthers out there, who claim some magic knowledge of paper, type font, racial terminology, etc, in use in Hawaii in 1961! Carnival barkers were immediately crying "fake," on grounds, inter alia, that "everyone knows" that Obama's birth name was "Barry" & that he only had to get "his Muslim name" to get into Muslim school! WTF?! And IF he were BORN in a Muslim country [which Kenya was NOT], why would his impoverished parents go to all that trouble to schlep their pregnant selves overseas for the birth, only to name the boy Barry when they got there & wait until school age to change it?! Still others cried "fake," straight-facedly claiming his birth name was Soetero! Huh? Ah, so that's why he can't be American– because he somehow has TWO foreign birth fathers? One cannot fix this kind of crazy! It's a shame the White House even had to try. And still, America's favorite pop psychologist, Dr. Phil, defended his friend, The Donald, on The Late Show, when Letterman [echoing Bob Schieffer] called Trump racist & said "I don't know that I ever WANT him back here"! [Modifying that later to say he could come back for the purpose of apologizing to the president and the public.] "Dr." Fail claimed that the "very nice man" "does not have a racist bone in his body." Really? Well, if that ludicrous claim be true, Trump is at the very best a PANDERER to racists & how is that different?
Will the White House next feel constrained to trot out all the president's transcripts & class pictures back to kindergarten to satisfy the rantings of a publicity-craving egomaniac w/ delusions of grandeur?
He'd better not trot out childhood pictures, or the conspiracy nuts will start talking about how they know for a fact that Obama's He-Man underoos weren't manufactured until five months AFTER the photo was allegedly taken.
Underoos? That's very funny, Darrin. Hahaha. Also, what if he had his pic. taken naked on a bear skin rug? Hahahah. I have an idea. Someone needs to tell Trump and all the Trump Pet lovers they should follow the Golden Rule. Can you imagine if everything they do and say about Obama came back to bite them personally? Also, I think that his birth would be legitimate even if his dad was a Martian, because his MOTHER was an American citizen and children of an American citizen, even if born on a boat or overseas, are legally American citizens as well. What I find the most humorous was when the birther people said Obama was born in Hawaii and was therefore born outside the United States, because Hawaii wasn't a state. It was, wasn't it?
Mr. Obama did very well i hope now Donald Trump will calm up i think this matter will ends with this action (Release of Obama's birth certificate).
Trump says he's done with the birth certificate matter. He's moved on to the more important matter of "exactly how did this guy get into an Ivy League school?"
I'm still waiting for the mainstream media to start asking Trump (and anyone else, for that matter) for proof – any evidence at all -before they give them a platform to make wild accusations.
Come on, Dar. When did ANYONE ever ask for PROOF before making wild accusations? So, wait on, but don't hold your breath. Worse, still, are the listeners who buy into any and every hint of scandal without vetting the lies. However, if telling lies and gossip about Obama are the worst thing that ever happens to him, I'd say he's very fortunate, indeed. I was hoping nothing physical would happen to him in a bad way. So far, thank God and knock on wood, he's been safe that way. I really think that the shock and sadness we endured as a nation after the JFK shooting paved the way for Obama to live and be physically safe.
He's using "How did he get in" to insinuate that he only got in because of affirmative action and not his intelligence. Again, proof of Trump's racist attitudes and willingness to cut down the President and step on him in order to raise himself up in the eyes of the public.
Not a chance it will end. I just heard from my own brother and he's now into the idea of the bc being fake, and has quickly soaked up the "why did Obama get into an Ivy League school" idea, which of course is another way to say it was Affirmative Action and he didn't deserve it.
Hate to bad-mouth a fellow kaas koop, but Donald Trump was born in South Africa, to an unmarried Boer mother:
http://trumpbirthers.blogspot.com/2011/04/donald-…
Unfortunately, I looked this up on Snopes, and although he was conceived there, he was born here. Sigh. I wish it could be so. Ironic, wouldn't it be?
Oops. Sorry to have sent you over to Snopes, Chaya. I meant that comment tongue in cheek.
My fault .
"ironically barbecue" – made me giggle. a lot. thanks!
I aim to please, WWMD.
Strangely, the form does not list the president's real name, George W. Bush II, so I'm questioning its authenticity.
And yes, I need to say this again: OBAMA IS NO DIFFERENT FROM BUSH.
@benschwartzy said it best: "Birthers aren't going to be happy til Obama releases a certificate of whiteness."