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July 17th, 2011

States’ Wrongs

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  1. MisTeryWriter says:

    How many of you readers remember how scared we were as Democrats, thinking that if we voted for Obama, it might get him killed? In fact, I knew many elderly Black people in church who said they didn't want his death on their hands, so they were voting for Hillary instead.

  2. MisTeryWriter says:

    Another major accomplishment he has is that by walking a tightrope, no crazies are out to assassinate him.

  3. MisTeryWriter says:

    I understand Obama. He's caught between a rock and a hard place. I can only hope that in his second "semester" in office, he'll have the guts to do what's right in a FIRM and decisive manner. You all have to realize that as the first Black president, everyone is just WAITING to step all over him to prove that he's an idiot, and whatever else is their stereotype of Black people. He's really walking a tightrope. You younger people who are Black need to have some EMPATHY for what he is facing. I just HATE that he seems to be selling out much of what he had promised. He's finding you can't keep all the promises, particularly if one of them is antithetic to the others. He found he can't get everyone to negotiate nicely and STILL KEEP his other promises.

  4. Michael Ventrella says:

    Hey! That was my Facebook status a month or so ago! I demand royalties!

  5. Crooktooth says:

    The marriage of Barak Obama's parents was illegal in EVERY state in the USA, back in 1960 and again today.

    Barak Obama Sr. was already married to Kezia Obama when he proposed to Ann Dunham. Kezia Obama is, in fact, still alive today in England.

    That begs the question "what is marriage?" Bend the term too much (as Obama Sr. did), and it ceases meaning anything. It certainly meant little to Obama Sr, who abandoned three wives in 10 years. Fortunately, his son President Obama has a much more grounded sense of marriage.

  6. MisTeryWriter says:

    Obama is juggling (you call it evolving) many issues. One is being re-elected. " Obama's reluctance to embrace gay marriage may be part of a broader effort to avoid alienating voters in battleground states, like Ohio and Nevada, where majorities have traditionally shown less support for the unions than voters overall.

    Several states that Obama carried in 2008 but that are expected to be close calls in the upcoming election have constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage, including Colorado, Florida, Nevada, Ohio and Virginia." He also said that he's hopeful the voters will effect the change. He is not, after all, a dictator, correct? He said, in the same speech, that he knows we all are upset with the slow pace of change. We do have to give him credit for repealing the DADT in the military, and look how long that took him. Government does work slowly. With the Republicans, there was no FORWARD change, only a move backwards. With the Democrats, they COULD move forward if the Republicans and others didn't put stumbling blocks in their paths. Right?

    • Darrin Bell says:

      Of course. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Obama is playing the role he has to play, but his critics are playing the role they have to play. If Obama DOES secretly believe gays deserve equal rights, and if he IS hamstrung by independents who don't agree with that, then he has to be able to one day say that a stubborn, persistent, highly critical movement persuaded him to aid – or made it impossible for him to oppose – the recognition of equal rights for gays. If Obama's playing poker here, his critics are part of his hand. If he's playing the role he has to play, we are also playing the role WE have to play.

      • Jeff says:

        I think that Obama does believe that gays deserve equal rights. Fortunately for the majority of the USA we believe thast marriae is not a RIGHT, it is a privilege that is reserved for ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN.

        • Anonymous says:

          By "we", do you mean older generation that will die out sooner or later? More and more younger Americans are believing in equal rights for everyone. You either keep up with progression or get left behind.

        • Darrin Bell says:

          The "rights" vs. "privilege" argument is specious, since most of the "civil rights" that we fought for in the '60s (sitting at lunch counters, sitting where you want on the bus, going to the school you want to go to, etc.) were also said (by those wanting to deny them to blacks) to be privileges.

      • Jimbodakidd says:

        Hello Darrin, love the comic btw. I have a problem with Obama "secretly" believing in anything. Look, I'm Canadian and may not fully understand your system of government but shouldn't the man in the office all of you aspire to hold, the man who everyone should be able to look to for inspiration, who parents can point to and say "see kids, that's what you need to emulate", shouldn't he have the courage of his convictions to say what he believes? Otherwise, he's just another damned politician.

        • Darrin Bell says:

          Yes, he should.

        • Slipstick says:

          Unfortunately that's the state of politics. You won't see someone like "Man of the Year" because they hardly get voted past mayor. The ones that do make it to governor are exceptions to the rule. While I would love to be one of the politicians who would say, "Screw how it's always been done, THIS is what's right for the people," I know that I would never make it past dog-catcher.

      • Mellaril says:

        Who will Obama sacrifice next on the Altar of Expediency?

        The world wonders….

  7. gcruse says:

    What blacks need to realize is that voting is acting white.

  8. WWMD says:

    You're not going to let this issue go are you, Darrin? I love it! Thank you. :*

  9. Robet says:

    Yeah, Jim, Bush would TOTALLY have appointed Sotomayor.

    • Jim says:

      I'm referring more to screwing the people over on civil liberties, wasteful spending, and engaging in pointless military interventions.

  10. ReFlex76 says:

    Look at this on a pragmatic step-by-step level: "State's Rights" = Get rid of DOMA.

    • MisTeryWriter says:

      Ironically, Pres. Clinton signed Doma in 1966. Can you imagine? This was a Democrat's idea!

  11. Jim says:

    Would it be cliche if I again point out how similar Obama is to Bush?

    • MisTeryWriter says:

      There is one difference between Obama and Bush. Bush is REALLY ignorant. Obama is PLAYING at being ignorant to keep the people voting for him who would otherwise go toward the Republican side.

  12. Jeff says:

    OMG, I can not believe that Obama has said something with which I can actually agree.

  13. Moon_Shadow says:

    Slavery, suffrage, interracial marriage… yep, all resolved very well by the individual states!

    • John says:

      The difference is that they were all handled in different ways. Ending slavery took a war plus two constitutional amendments (simply ending the institution wasn't enough), plus years of prosecution and legislation (see Slavery by Another Name by Douglas A. Blackmon, an excellent book). Suffrage took political campaigning plus the constitutional amendments. And allowing interracial marriage took Supreme Court decisions.

      Now, yeah, I'd be a lot happier if Obama would use his presidential pulpit to influence the process. And I'd be even happier if the Justice Department would get involved (although part of the problem is that the J. D. has to work with existing laws. It would also help if the Supreme Court weren't dominated by members of the Federalist Society). But a lot of this does have to happen on the state level.

  14. Anonymous says:

    lol, I love the irony.