I knew a real drama queen in beauty school when I lived in Hollywood. He was quite nice! He taught me to put on eye makeup.
If Lemont's baby takes after his mom, that would make him a bi-racially Black vampire?
The discussion you are having with Chaya is interesting. I, too, remember those days. Back when I was young, only we young people used to read cartoons. I think DB has broken into the older generation as being a part of his readership. Bravo, DB!
OK, Chaya. Because both my ex-husband and I, as well as our kids, were all born blue-eyed blonds:-) [Oirish= a phnetic attempt at an Irish pronunciation of "Irish."] So I'm not blaming any race for their dad, just meant to point out that while we were discussing Lemont's views on the black family unit, abuse, abandonment & deadbeatism come in all colors. In fact, my bio family also comes in all colors-- while in our case, we're mostly white, mostly raised Catholic or Protestant, like our president, I am also blessed to have kinfolk who are black, Asian, Hispanic, Arab, Muslim & Jewish [& also gay and Atheist- parenthesized b/c I don' t know if any of Obama's family are out of either of those closets;-]
Oirish, abusive daddies come in all colors, shapes, sizes, nationalities, etc. I think it's the testosterone and low self image as well as, perhaps, an inability to have adult communication without adding drama, rage and angers.
I just realized what you were saying, Oirish. You are Black and have biracial children and their white daddy is a dead beat. I must caution you with love and understanding that your children must not hear you use reasons of race or name calling of their dad based on his race, because one half of them ARE what their dad is. They don't have to respect him as their father, but they must not blame a whole race of people. If I'm wrong, please just let this go in one ear and out the other. OK? :)
In the late '70s, there were a couple of cases where, when the Black spouse died, the child was torn from the arms of the white stepfather, even though the stepfather legally adopted the child and the child used the dad's last name. I remember the horrors we felt about the tears we saw on television from the little kids. My opinion back then was that it is best to get the orphans or abused children out of orphanages and foster care and into ANY family, no matter WHAT race or color they were. And, yes, I felt Black parents should also be allowed to adopt little white kids. I just thought that race should not be a factor. That's how I thought in those days.
correction: If HE plans to...
Chaya, I'm pretty sure that that is NOT what Lemont or Darrin are implying, but since Darrin is so much more concise & precise in such matters, and since it's his baby [see what I did there?], I should let him answer, if I plans to. But this is not like those cases you cite, which are about non-relative adoptions, whereas here, Roxanne is the bio mom. After all, our president was brought up by the white side of his family. What I see Lemont citing is, as he says, the the destructive factors, starting with slavery (and I would argue, the welfare policies requiring that fathers be absent from their children's households), keeping black children apart from their fathers. Don't have the exact dates & percentages at hand, but I know that it was in our living memories (yours & mine; Darrin seems a lot younger than us;-) that the majority of black children DID grow up in two-parent households! There are strong factors of economic class as well as race at "work" here, pun intended-- it's only in our lifetimes that it has become impossible to support a family with children on ONE income, allowing for children to have the benefit of full time parenting, not just "day care." No, of course not for every family, but for a significant percentage of us. ... But now this single mom has to break away from her PC and get dinner started for the kids their abusive (white) daddy dead-beated out on...
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I knew a real drama queen in beauty school when I lived in Hollywood. He was quite nice! He taught me to put on eye makeup.
If Lemont's baby takes after his mom, that would make him a bi-racially Black vampire?
The discussion you are having with Chaya is interesting. I, too, remember those days. Back when I was young, only we young people used to read cartoons. I think DB has broken into the older generation as being a part of his readership. Bravo, DB!
OK, Chaya. Because both my ex-husband and I, as well as our kids, were all born blue-eyed blonds:-) [Oirish= a phnetic attempt at an Irish pronunciation of "Irish."] So I'm not blaming any race for their dad, just meant to point out that while we were discussing Lemont's views on the black family unit, abuse, abandonment & deadbeatism come in all colors. In fact, my bio family also comes in all colors-- while in our case, we're mostly white, mostly raised Catholic or Protestant, like our president, I am also blessed to have kinfolk who are black, Asian, Hispanic, Arab, Muslim & Jewish [& also gay and Atheist- parenthesized b/c I don' t know if any of Obama's family are out of either of those closets;-]
Oirish, abusive daddies come in all colors, shapes, sizes, nationalities, etc. I think it's the testosterone and low self image as well as, perhaps, an inability to have adult communication without adding drama, rage and angers.
I just realized what you were saying, Oirish. You are Black and have biracial children and their white daddy is a dead beat. I must caution you with love and understanding that your children must not hear you use reasons of race or name calling of their dad based on his race, because one half of them ARE what their dad is. They don't have to respect him as their father, but they must not blame a whole race of people. If I'm wrong, please just let this go in one ear and out the other. OK? :)
In the late '70s, there were a couple of cases where, when the Black spouse died, the child was torn from the arms of the white stepfather, even though the stepfather legally adopted the child and the child used the dad's last name. I remember the horrors we felt about the tears we saw on television from the little kids. My opinion back then was that it is best to get the orphans or abused children out of orphanages and foster care and into ANY family, no matter WHAT race or color they were. And, yes, I felt Black parents should also be allowed to adopt little white kids. I just thought that race should not be a factor. That's how I thought in those days.
correction: If HE plans to...
Chaya, I'm pretty sure that that is NOT what Lemont or Darrin are implying, but since Darrin is so much more concise & precise in such matters, and since it's his baby [see what I did there?], I should let him answer, if I plans to. But this is not like those cases you cite, which are about non-relative adoptions, whereas here, Roxanne is the bio mom. After all, our president was brought up by the white side of his family. What I see Lemont citing is, as he says, the the destructive factors, starting with slavery (and I would argue, the welfare policies requiring that fathers be absent from their children's households), keeping black children apart from their fathers. Don't have the exact dates & percentages at hand, but I know that it was in our living memories (yours & mine; Darrin seems a lot younger than us;-) that the majority of black children DID grow up in two-parent households! There are strong factors of economic class as well as race at "work" here, pun intended-- it's only in our lifetimes that it has become impossible to support a family with children on ONE income, allowing for children to have the benefit of full time parenting, not just "day care." No, of course not for every family, but for a significant percentage of us. ... But now this single mom has to break away from her PC and get dinner started for the kids their abusive (white) daddy dead-beated out on...